in our article, quoted a guy from the environmental defense fund who knows a lot about this and eric made the analogy to baseball saying, in connection with the disgraced slugger barry bonds, he said, you could not attribute bonds' use of steroids to only one home run he hit, but only a fool would think that steroids had nothing to do with the amount of home runs he hit and how far he hit. i think that is analogy that is good -- i think it is an analogy that is good to think about. there are many factors that go into extreme weather, but overall, the fact the oceans are higher, the wer is warmer, there was more moisture in the atmosphere, that the arctic ice is melting -- those are facts. it is time to accept them. >> in fact, when you talk about the arctic ice melting, you talk about what scientists say may be a direct link between that and what you are experiencing in new york and people are expressing along the east coast now. but that is right. what you're talking about now is something specific to sandy. one of the interesting and very relevant things about this particular storm